fluder is always being hyped up as an awesome mage comparable to the hero rigrit (even tho he hasnt seen her in like 200 years and has no clue what she capable of now) but hes weaker than a death knight (level 35)
gazef is always being hyped up as a guy with one foot in the realm of heroes at level 30
and the martial lord whos in the realm of heroes is level 33
so dose this mean TRoH ranges from level 31 to 34 ? or are the martial and fluder just like the losers that barely managed to squeeze into TRoH in that case where does the realm of heroes end and the realm of legend begin? or is fluder only weaker than that death knight because its a natrual spawned one thats stronger than a summon ?
also if anyone knows, what level is lakyus ? and can she beat fluder
DDDl is level 100 (possibly higher) cus he's confirmed by maruyama to be stronger than all the floor guardians except shalltear and big G
PDL is around the same strength or stronger judging by his convo with rigrit in volume 07 where she said PDL might be the strongest being 8in the new world despite knowing about the existence of DDDL
PDL and DDDL are said to be like little children compared to the past dragon lords witch would mean the past dragon lords are stronger than level 100 dragons, which would mean they are either above level 100 or they are the equivalent of raid bosses in the world
and while the 8GK did defeat the past dragon lords its never stated that they soloed its very likely that they ganged up and killed them 1 by one just like a party fighting a raid boss
also i dont know why you say its unlikely that the 8GK were level 100 cus i dont see any way for a guild to get a world class item let alone of the 20 without having level 100 members the only players that we know for sure were not level 100 are the two players in the thirteen heroes cus it was said that one of them could get stronger and stronger the more he fought witch implies he could still level up
as for the whole fluder being level 40ish thing i doubt it since in both the light and web novels gazef is confident in kicking fluders ass if he has the kingdoms treasurs and i doubt the kingdoms treasurs boost gazef from level 30-32 all the to 40ish and i doubt its because warriors have an advantage again magic casters cus maruyama makes it a point to hammer in the fact that magic caster hold the advantage to warriors
K so right now so far in the story, I wouldn’t say for sure, but to me it’s semi confirmed level 100 is still the limit
And wild magic was said to work differently than tier magic, so it could have the possibility of doing huge damage to the guardians in that case even if he isn’t level 100 or close like level 90
DDDL was confirmed to have killed a player who had one of the “twenty” but that isn’t that great of proof that DDDL is level 100 since we don’t know what level the player he killed was a, heck he might’ve been a 70-80 noob who still thinks he has multiple lives like in Yggdrasil since he still maintained his characters and equipments. The WI that’re part of the “twenty” can spawn basically anywhere in the Yggdrasil world, so even if he had one it doesn’t mean that he’s from a crazy strong guild or he’s a maxed out and top tier players, maybe he just happened to find the WI while farming monsters for exp or smthing, again too little information.
While DDDL could possibly be level 80 or higher possibly level 90, level 100 just doesn’t seem right to me currently, since there’s a limit on level 100 for Ainz and all the other members of Nazarick (but hey maybe the new world works differently and dragons have a higher limit? I dont know? Doubt it would be like that tho). And dragons are suppose to get stronger the older they get, and hell they might even live up to a couple thousand years before they die from old age. Just a speculation but I’d say the old dragon emperor would be at least 700 years old, and that PDL are both around 400 years old, since PDL was around level 40 200 years ago when he used the armour.
I wouldn’t say that PDL or DDDL are anywhere near level 100, else that would mean ZZ would be minimum level 85 if she even have a chance to fight on even grounds with PDL but since she supposedly can handle PDL on her own, I’d say she would then have to be at least 90 then, which just looks so wrong since she is still a half elf and half godkin. This would completely mess up the power scaling of the world, and there would prob be no reason for the Argland Council State to fear anyone and could just dominate he world, since keep in mind the realm of heroes are somewhere around 35-45’ish, countries like the kingdom only has Evileye who is in that realm, and if the Argland Council State has more or similarly old aged dragons like PDL at least around 300 years old, which most likely the five council members are, then chances are it could be an easy sweep to rebuild their dragon empire again from back then, before the SGG showed up.
So basically if PDL or DDDL are level 100, high doubt that, then there should be any reason for them and especially to fear anything even if it’s ZZ, since they also have their own Yggdrasil equipments from the EGK. PDL also mentioned during his conversation with Rigrit that there are stronger entities in the world than him, which was shalltear whom he fought, so since shalltear is level 100, then PDL shouldn’t have said that if he was also level 100, since Ainz said before that dragons were known in Yggdrasil as mid to top tier bosses that were notoriously hard to beat, that is to say level 100 dragons would be extremely powerful in Yggdrasil, and shouldn’t be something that would be scared off by an NPC like shalltear
I swear I need to stop posting these essay like responses q.q(and I’m sorry for doing so, it’s become a habit to do so whenever I get interested and get myself involved q.q)
I’m just basically saying level cap is so far confirmed by Ainz to be 100 at 99.9% exp during the war on Katze plain. So saying PDL and DDDL are at level 100 will just screw up all the info we have so far in the story and mess up the plot, since Ainz is suppose to be an OP character in the new world, but is being cautious cause of his nature that carrried from Yggdrasil where information is critical and key.
High likelihood PDL and DDDL aren’t higher than level 75, more likely PDL is around 72, and maybe DDDL is slightly higher like 73 or 74, since they technically are dragon lords and the oldest ones around, but that’s because basically 80% of the old dragon lords were slaughtered by the EGK.
Again too little information, so even if DDDL did kill a player that doesn’t mean that he is confirmed level 100. There are quite a bit of examples of non level 100 players like the two in the 13 heroes, the evil deities or demon gods, who were all non level 100,which the highest of them being basically confirmed at no higher than 70, which was the highest level of the evil deities. So the player DDDL killed could’ve been something like level 50-70 or smthing, or he could’ve been level 80, but DDDL could’ve used his wild magic, which has ofc unknown by powerful properties and hell it could’ve maybe allowed DDDL an easy kill in exchange for a right amount of souls.
Wild magic which are exclusive for dragons are basically comparable to WCI and could prob allow the user to jump and fights beings higher levels than them depending on the amount of souls used
These are again all my opinions and speculations of course, everything here could be wrong, could be right, all depends on how the author’s planned it out and how high or low of a level he placed them at. I just feel like anything higher than level 75 for PDL and DDDL just doesn’t mix well and just sound incorrect :/
Again this is the internet, the place where there’s a sh*t ton of opinions xD
Edit: about that tweet from Maruyama about DDDL having an advantage for fighting with any the guardians except gargantua and shalltear, well maybe the wild magic or the WCI could’ve been included in that analysis, maybe it wasn’t, but again, which would be what Ainz would say, INFORMATION is key/critical lel xD.
If that is the case however that Maruyama had included all the hidden trump cards of DDDL in the case that he isnt that high leveled(lower than 85) then perhaps it would be comparable to something like:
A teen armed with a bat or smthing and with no experience fighting against an adult who has fighting experience, but that the teen(in this case is DDDL) has a handgun with two bullets, then he would have the advantage since all he has to do is to be able to aim accurately and deal a fatal blow with the two shots he has. I’d say that would be like the type of advantage DDDL would have against the other guardians.
But let’s say it’s DDDL versus gargantua, then it would be like the small thing, only that gargantua, which in this case is the adult, having a semi bullet proof vest on, and wouldn’t be seriously injured even if shot twice.
Shalltear’s case might be something like her also having a handgun, but that hers has a fully loaded magazine, and that she has lot of experience in using firearms compared to DDDL, the teen who has little to none of it and possibly never touched a firearm before
Just a little comparison, again not sure if it’s right or wrong too little information :p
im sure you're right, level 100 is the limit, but that only goes for players and godkin the residents of the new world are not bound by the rules of yggdrasil
im not saying DDDL is level 100 cus he killed a player im saying he's level 100 cus maruyama said hes stronger than the floor guardians, unless you're trying to tell me a level 70-80 dragon can defeat the floor guardians but that wouldnt make any sence
and you dont just happen to find world items lying around especially not one of the 20 for example ainz ooal gown got the world item "Throne of Kings" after concurring a level 85 dungeon in one attempt, something that was unheard of at the time, and they got the world item "Caloric Stone" after securing a mine with some of the most rare and valuable ore in the game and mass producing it. then theres the world item that would drop if you deafeated the 7 deadly sins and to defeat just one of them you'd need 30 top tier level 100 players let alone defeating all 7 there's absolutely no way to simple stumble onto one of the 20 while doing something like killing goblins in the field or beating a level 70 boss there's no way they not level 100
and if what you said about the 8GK farming exp is true then its possible they were farming exp cus some of them died against the past dragons lord and lost some levels since its confirmed that alot of them were "slaughtered" by dddl
Zesshi isnt on par with PDL its stated that if PDL faught with her she'd get rekt, so no PDL and DDDl being level 100 wouldnt mess up the scaling, Zesshi being above level 75 would mess up the scaling (heres the quote)
“, the republic was very strong to be precise the danger lie with one of the councilors of the republic, the platinum dragon lord, child of the dragon emperor, if they did battle with him, the mightiest of the dragon lords they ran the risk of their country being reduced to scorched earth.”
(This is the slane theocracy shiting their pants at the thought of PDL destroying their entire country, if zesshi was as strong or stronger than PDL then they wouldn't have to be afraid of him)
Its stated by maruyama that DDDL can beat all Floor guardians except shalltear because she is his bane (she has an ability/ abilities that gives her a huge advantage against dragons just like ainz's world item thats why PDL cant beat shalltear its not because he isnt level 100 (heres the quote)
"The Deep Darkness Dragon Lord, who annihilated the players 300 years ago. Possess the ?????, one of the 20 world-class items, in his possession. His unique magic is damn strong and both his offense and defense is flawless, but unfortunately Shalltear is his nemesis. Against any other Floor Guardian, he would likely be victorious... Don't fight one-on-one? Deploy the Gargantua? Don't say that...>"
dont worry about the essays m8 i have the same habit im just saying the level cap is confirmed by ainz to be 100 (for players not new world dragons)
if PDL is level 72 like you say then he wouldn't be stronger than the floor guardians like maruyama said and the highest level of the evil dieties is 85 as seen in the sealed evil tree side story (zytle que)
For the evil tree, that could be due to him(prob) living for much longer or smthing than the others(maybe? Growth since he’s a tree monster I guess? Not sure xD)
Btw all opinions and speculations again, hope you don’t mind or find offense at anything, just putting out my opinions and what I feel like it would be, that’s what these forums are for right? XD
As for the part where PDL and DDDL could be level 100 but not ZZ, that won’t exactly work out either, since the dragons of the old had their own empire that basically ruled the NW, so what’s stopping any of the DL from doing it once again, maybe to reclaim their old glory or something if the strongest possible being to stop them, ZZ prob isn’t higher than level 75?
It wasn’t exactly stated, maybe it was, but it was shown that in Yggdrasil levels won’t matter as long as there wasn’t that big of a gap like let’s say 10 levels and it prob won’t be that big of a difference until like let’s say at least 15 levels, but level differences of like 5 levels in the NW are constantly seen, maybe not stressed, but I’ve definitely seen cases where that makes for a quite a big(not going to say huge) difference. That might be because of how Yggdrasil is although a half virtual world with you having control of your character and stuff, it’s still a MMORPG that still limits thing and sets the game apart from reality, as seen in the NPC’s of Nazarick and basically the whole game being restricted to certain orders and specified movements as per their creators designs and stuff. Nazaricks NPC’s were mostly strictly designed each to the finest details(albedo, shalltear, Cocytus, demiurge and etc), and that their stats were whatever since it was just numbers displaying how powerful that entity is, but here in the NW, as we’ve seen, it works completely differently as the gap in levels becomes ever more visible and apparent to us, as ZZ is probably and most likely leagues above the captain of BS, although the captain is confirmed to be stronger than lupusregina in terms of strength, and also stronger than solution, which would basically make him about level 50, maybe higher, and perhaps he might be able to fight and skip levels with let’s say decent gear in terms of the NW, so let’s say he can go up to the fighting power of a at least a 57 to beat solution, but 59 looks better to me, so ZZ would prob have to be around at least 60 and probably 75, maybe 80 fully equipped. Which that still will be nothing compared to a possible level 100 PDL, and keep in mind, that’s just his raw power, no equipments from the EGK, and also counting out all the other DL in the Argland council, which definitely has multiple DL higher than level 70 and possible level 80-90’s, and in that case the chances of the entire world even, being able to beat them would be minimal, since if Zesshi is the overlord of humanoid species(most likely), then even she would get completely obliterated, as keep in mind, wild magic works differently than tier magic, and considering how old PDL is, he’s likely to have stacked a LOT of souls or whatever is used for wild magic, and that in itself could possible obliterate if not destroy Zesshi if they were to fight.
Again, I’m not saying DDDL and PDL can’t be level 100, and sure they could, but that would be very hard to believe, considering dragons are currently in the NW, to be probably the apex species and race, and the potential to grow stronger and faster than most others, given that they could sit, eat and sleep for a millennium and they could probably reach level 100 if not very near.
I’m not saying that Maruyama’s tweet of DDDL being able to fight the floor guardians and have an advantage other than against gargantua or shalltear is wrong, I’m just speculating on whether or not that would be completely accurate since it’s just such a ‘vague’(emphasis on this word) claim. Like, does that mean DDDL would be using his WI he got from the player he killed, who in my mind I still believe to be low level(around 70-85) since we’ve seen a lot of these types of players transferred to the NW(maybe they were the most common ones online, enjoying the last bit of the game till it ended or were doing something not sure), so perhaps hat WI could along with his wild magic, which is probably just as powerful if not more powerful than PDL’s wild magic, like maybe say penetrate through all armour and defense stats and just deal true damage at the cost of most if not all his stored up power, and let’s say that it’s on the tier of at least a buffed up or steroid version of a super tier magic in this case that would ignore armour or something, or maybe grant a buff or give the opponent a debuff. So maybe he could deal quite a decent amount of power and damage in this case, so maybe that and the WI could be the advantage as well as him having a decent defense and perhaps could tank quite a few shots and blows.
And again my speculation as to why he wouldn’t be having the same advantage against gargantua maybe could be because he’s designed to be especially powerful and op statwise in exchange for basically having very little intelligence, so maybe he could be controlled by Ainz or something and perhaps that could help, or maybe he could deal huge damage since he is a siege machine designed to deal tremendous amounts of damage against things like guild walls which probably has like perhaps more than 10 times his or albedo’s hp(since he’s a siege machine so he should at least have more hp than the other floor guardians, also since he has op stats and was gifted from the devs, and albedo since she’s technically designed to be a tank so tank= at least decently high amount of hp(else why you a tank for? q.q)). So maybe he could screw up the fight from certain variables? Question mark question mark?? Again, too little info so all speculations
And my mind’s also speculating that perhaps Shalltear could demolish DDDL because of let’s say her being able to tank the attack and her lifesteal attacks? High dps maybe? Or maybe it could just be a bad match while DDDL against the other floor guardians are a fair or better match? Like in the case of Evileye and Entoma maybe.
We have very little information, so any assumptions we can make can’t really be backed up by much, yours or mines they’re both false until it is revealed in the novel and become canon. Aish, these hurt my brain since it requires so much think and typing it into words xD, if only I can travel to the future and find out, come back and state my so called “opinions” and “speculations”, and have them come true later on and be proud of it >:)
Also I like this discussion, it’s different from others I’ve had, like those where the people ever respond, or just respond with something really or sort of toxic like saying something like how ‘dumb’ you are, like it states here in volume blah and chapter blah that blah blah and so your completely wrong, and not looking at if that makes sense in the story q.q
Zy'tle q'ue isnt level 85 cus he lived long only dragon get stronger with age (as far as we know) and its stated that back during the days of the 13 heroes they defeated a part of him (around level 40) and then they said they would kill zy'tle q'ue when he fully emerges (Level 80-85)
the dragon lords haven't reinstated their empire because they just cant be bothered they are too busy
DDDL is guarding a world class item
PDL is guarding the guild weapon of the 8 greed kings
SCD is out there trying to impregnate every race
DLHH is pretty much an island so he doesn't care about ruling land
ECDL and VDL are dead soooo yeah
long story short they just have better shit to do than reclaiming the empire that their ancestors lost its not cus their scared of zesshi (some of them might be tho since we dont know the levels of all of them, im sure zesshi is stronger than some of the true dragon lords)
the captain was confirmed to be stronger than solution not lupusregina and its stated that PDL would destroy the entire slane theocracy by himself that includes all the scriptures, the captain, zesshi and all the godkins (all by himself) so arguing that zesshi can fight on par with him is a bit of a stretch the captain is level 58-62 most likely id say zesshi is around 70-75 at most then the other black scripture members rank from 33-45, for PDL to take down all of these (by himself) he would need to be level 100, no matter how you slice it
its stated that if the theocracy angered PDL he could reduce their country to scorched ash alone theres really no way to argue him being below level 100
and about DDDL, no i dont think maruyama was talking about him using his world item to kill the guardians since its stated that world items dont work on other world item holders and all the floor guardians have world items as of volume 13
(ofcourse you could argue that the 20 are exceptions to the rule)
but even if you want to say the world item makes him as strong as a level 100 then i could say he defeated a player with that same world item and so that player would have been as strong as a level 100 (not to mention its stated he "obliterated a group of *PLAYERS*" so not just one player, even if you want to say the players were level 70-80, defeating of group of level 70-80 players one of which has one of the 20, DDDL would still have to be level 100 to pull that off
I do get what you’re saying and stuff so maybe PDL and DDDL could be higher higher leveled, but still level 90 or higher sounds like a bit of a stretch for me, since we of course don’t have enough information, after all we’re just speculating from what we do know, but it is true that in the NW 10 levels of a difference makes for hell of a gap to bypass. Zesshi might be able to pass that gap with her equipments from the SGG, but maybe PDL could maybe also utilize some of the items he has from the EGK?
Or maybe ST hasn’t fought with PDL yet, and has only heard rumors about how powerful he is, for example when he was part of the 13 heroes ‘200’ years ago, so maybe they’re just thinking he’s gotten much more powerful and that fighting him would most likely demolish them? Or maybe they’ve fought PDL before because they want humans to be the only race in existence basically(well dominant race is what they want at least), so maybe they fought him before with the scriptures and pretty much got destroyed, but it isn’t likely that ZZ has fought with him yet, and ZZ technically hasn’t been able to display how far she can go in terms of combat power since again, it’s said that she hasn’t met with anyone’s as of yet that can come close to beating her, so perhaps they’re speculating as well, since testing it would be too risky? I don’t think that they think ZZ could defeat PDL, just that they have the artifacts that they received from the SGG including a known WCI, so that could technically also be used, not sure.
And for the WI of the twenty that he player DDDL had, it’s still more believable to say that DDDL isn’t level 100, we don’t have enough information, but him being level 100 just mix well for me. First off, dragons are known to be able to live forever according to the lore in Yggdrasil, and since they are of herteromorphic race, they could probably live forever, so it can maybe also be speculated that they could grow stronger.
Also, it has also been said that it took 10 ‘old’ DL to fight one of the EGK, so maybe if DDDL is level 100, then the ‘old’ DL should supposedly, still be stronger, somehow, and somehow they still barely managed to kill a single EGK, and at the cost of a lot more losses. And yes, perhaps they could’ve used a WCI, but I doubt that all eight of them had one, perhaps they had two, at most, since they were as you said so crazily hard to obtain, probably several if not dozens of times harder than divine class items, so perhaps they were able to fight with 10 DL each who supposedly could be stronger than level 100, from maybe they items or maybe experience, but still Dragons are like I said basically apex species with basically the most potential to overpower every other race, until players came in ofc and reversed that completely, but level 100 DL were all strong enough to be deemed high tier raid bosses that required probably at least a few dozen maxed players, so even if the NW might work differently than Yggdrasil, a level 100 DL like “supposedly” and “theoretically” PDL and DDDL should be very very very OP, especially with the WI that DDDL has, and the equipments PDL has from the EGK. Equipments could make a difference, but not enough to fight with 10 level 100 DL by themselves(1 on 10), and it would be more unlikely with the addition of the dragons wild magic, which still has unknown but almost confirmed powerful uses.
Brain and Gazef could be an example of similarly leveled entities, but since Gazef is barely higher leveled and not sure if anything’s affecting it, he had been able to barely win in his match against Brain. Perhaps wild magic could be a deciding factor for why Dragons could be so powerful even if there is a big level gap.
As for the player that had the WCI, if he is level 100, then idk wtf to even say anymore since then he would have to be an absolute trash ass player, or he could’ve been a noob that bought a maxed account just because it was cheap and perhaps sated it had one of the twenty WI(perhaps the original owner wanted to earn some money from it before the game ended?). Maybe the supposedly could be maxed level player didn’t know anything if not barely anything about the character? So maybe he didn’t what all the high tier skills he had does, or he’s just so inexperienced he got completely outmatched and destroyed by DDDL and perhaps also from his wild magic? Which we still don’t know the uses of. It could maybe also help with saying that the player might’ve been a noob or something since he didn’t even use his WI(maybe he had the mindset that I shouldn’t use it since it’s so rare or something, and he thought he could revive). If he was from Yggdrasil, then it should also be common knowledge for any experienced player to know that fighting a Dragon by themselves, perhaps even with a WCI(in Yggdrasil) would’ve still been risky, but maybe the dude didn’t know about how powerful a dragon would be in Yggdrasil so maybe he overestimated his perhaps new level 100 account, and underestimated DDDL. Who knows, but if the player was level 100, then he definitely wasn’t an experienced player, to have been killed by DDDL if the EGK, who are also supposedly level 100 players, was able to fight 10 old DL that were supposed to be stronger than the current dragon lords if not most of them, and this had probably happened from a few hundred years ago too, like during the batch after or during the evil deities, DDDL perhaps wasn’t even level 100 at the time, if he even is level100
If only there was enough information q.q
We need more chapters Maruyama :3, looking forward to volume 14 next year though xD, perhaps Aura and Mare would be sent to the elf kingdom and Mare will just demolish the elf king? Or perhaps the elf king would run away and end up fighting and perhaps getting killed by ZZ? XD
“The Seven Colored Dragon Lord. A perverted dragon who the (True) Dragon Lords fear the most amongst their brethren. To describe how much of a pervert he's seen as, imagine seeing someone having sex with a goat while yelling "Get pregnant!". He has his own way of thinking, but is a loner because the others don't understand him. His residence is held at the top of a mountain located around the center of the continent. Intelligent like a scholar. Finds combat annoying.”
Lmao is it just me or does anything find the perverted part of him like Peroroncino?
Perhaps he’s the dragon form of Pedro? XD Perhaps Ainz will feel that way xD
i really dont see any way for a dragon bellow level 90 to beat a group of players one of which has one of the 20 most powerful items in the series
the slane theocracy defiantly knew exactly how strong PDL is since right after anz destroyed the kingdom in volume 09 the slane theocracy was the first nation (after the empire) to know exactly how strong ainz is. their information gathering is top tier.
DDDL has to be level 100 (or more) if hes stronger than the floor guardians he'd need to have at least 700 base stat total to have the advantage against them in terms of power since the second strongest of the guardians has 690 base stat total
Its very likely that those 10 dragon lords were not "true" dragon lords (those who can use wild magic) like the frost dragon lord most likely around level 60 or maybe they were fighting the greed king with the world item and got annihilated but thats less likely either way they cant be true dragon lords if it took 10 of them to beat one greed king cus DDDL beat a group of greed kings alone and the past true dragon lords are more powerful than him
i doubt a player with a world class item would be noob and no he couldnt have bought a max account since you can only have one character in yggdrasil and theres no way to transfer it to someone else most likely the eight greed kings are from one of the top 8 guilds that invaded nazarick that would explain how they got one of the 20 and it would explain why they stuck around till the server "shutdown"
and maruyama said DDDL's offence and defence are flawless against any floor guardian he would likely be victorious (in other words his offence and defense are better than the guardians, hes just stronger period.) and theres no way he underestimated DDDL even if he thought he could revive no player would just go down so easily while knowing there was a chance that their WCI would drop he didnt beat the WCI user because the WCI user was a noob he beat him cus he's stronger plane and simple
i gotta go with onida on this one since he always uses quotes from the light and web novel and or author as a basis for his arguments
while death is mostly using head cannon and speculation
maruyama saying DDDL can beat the floor guardians is better proof that he is level 100
than your head cannon theories are proof that he isnt
Yea, I’m just speculating for the most part xD
I can see how the levels of everyone else Onida said could be applied and actually work and makes sense, but I just don’t think making any DL that’s still alive level 100 won’t make sense, if the old DL were much stronger than most dragon lords that’re still alive rn.
Also the quotes and actual information from the novel and author doesn’t exactly say and point out much information, and the information are still very vague, like perhaps dragons being a superior race have higher stats than others, so a level 85 DL could prob fight a level 95 human, since humans have weaker physique and have limited strength compared to a dragon, like a deer and a lion, they could be the same age but one would overpower the other.
And I’m not saying that they(PDL and DDDL) can’t be level 100, it’s just that it wouldn’t make sense, if the restriction of level 100 applies to them, which it should. Dragons are a powerful species in the NW, but they’re nothing new, also existing in Yggdrasil and stuff, so they’re not exactly special since they’re also part of the heteromorphic race, so like everyone else, they should also be capped out at level 100.
Ofc they could maybe perhaps like Onida suggested to both be level 100, or very near like 95, and maybe the dragon emperor could be stronger because he could control much stronger wild magic, who knows? But it’s questionable since it doesn’t have much of a basis. If they have a higher level cap and not maxed out at level 100, then sure level 100 won’t sound that strange anymore, but what’s making it hard for me to believe the two to not be level 100 is because of that level cap, which we don’t know for sure if anyone in the current NW is at level 100 at all. If Maruyama’s tweet about Zesshi being the overlord of the new world applies for the dragons as well, then most likely PDL or DDDL and the other living dragon lords won’t be at or that close to level 100.
Again, most of my posts are from speculations, with some canon things mixed in(although not much), but Onida’s argument is also on the basis of some speculation, since the author could be thinking differently or the same as what you’re thinking.
And the point of DDDL having the advantage in a battle and possibly having a chance at winning against all the guardians except for gargantua and would get rekt from Shalltear, again, we just don’t have enough information, like me, you guys are speculating how the player that got killed was level 100, because he had a world class item that was part of the twenty, again, maybe the WI of the twenty are a bit special, and could spawn literally anywhere within a specified map level range in Yggdrasil or something, again speculations, but who is to say it has no chance of coming true?
Then again, all his is meaningless against Nazarick >:)
With about 10 level 100 entities(Ainz included)
A myriad of divine equipments and countless legendary equipments(From the other guild members)
Countless NPC’s, with most higher than level 40
11 WCI, with two being from the twenty(was it three? I don’t remember)
And finally Ainz with his plot armour :)
Add that all up
Easy world domination xD
But who is to say that there aren’t other level 100 players that have been transferred here too? XD
What do you think?