Talk:Overlord Volume 9/@comment-49.149.164.83-20151022065109/@comment-49.149.164.83-20151023100713

In a pollitical perspective I think Nazarick made alot of mistakes here. I agree that they shouldn't move recklessly without good intel about the world, which is why I think that Ainz shouldn't have gone all RTS on us just yet. I mean, they attacked their neighbors(which they know are weak and no match for them) effectively announcing their pressence to the world without even knowing what other dangers lurk out there in the NW. All for a city they don't even really need. It was a bad move.

They mentioned it was for them to have a wider array of choices through diplomacy. But the fact is they didn't even need diplomacy. They could have effectively made puppets out of the Kingdom(through the 8 fingers and Renner) and the Empire(through Fluder who has sway over the emperor's decisions) without revealing themselves. This way they could have also avoided any danger of being exposed as they would have had informants way-up in the political structure of their neighbors.

By the end of volume 7 they already had control over their neighbors who didn't even know they existed. In a political perspective that is a very enviable position to occupy. What should have followed is a widening of their horizons, searching for potential threats all while remaining in the shadows. Human stomping should have been postponed towards the end. Maybe in a world-wide coalition vs. Nazarick? :)

The worst mistake they made is the way they instigated the war. They invaded in a badass way, for sure, but the war also cast a very bad light on them. In the eyes of all the citizens of the NW they shed so much blood(100k+ lives) for a small reason; championing Carne village(~1k(?) citizens). This would only invite coalitions and have no benefits at all(aside from being badass that is). It was a bad reason to go to war altogether and they went too far with the killing.

For instance a good way to go to war would have been: to rile up pro-demihuman sentiments by instigating demihuman massacres by humans in the shadows and using that reason to champion the rights of demihumans in human countries(preferably the Theocracy). It would be easy as demihuman abuse is already rife in human lands. Not only would they appear to be heroes in the eyes of demihumans(possibly even godlike), they would also weaken human countries by sparking hatred between demihumans and humans in their cities. With this they can forge legit alliances with other demi-human nations. They can even kill hundreds of thousands as it would be seen as an important enough casus belli, even in the eyes of some humans. And most importantly the Dragon Lords won't have a righteous reason to attack them.