Talk:Rubedo/@comment-2A02:A442:4DB:1:FDE1:7E86:93BA:9312-20170803110201/@comment-26144500-20170809175648

The thing is, The Goal of All Life Is Death shouldn't affect Rubedo for the simple fact that she's kind of a living World Class Item in my opinion.

For example, when Ainz tried to use Wish Upon a Star to undo the brainwashing on Shalltear. The reason it didn't work was because the supertier wish was aimed at undoing the effect of a World Class item. Though, had the wish been something else involving Shalltear, it would have worked.

Now back at TGoALID and Rubedo, the aim of the skill is to strengthen (and delay by 12 seconds) the effects of instant death spells. Then, the instant death spell used will go through immunities to Death.

As for the Caloric Stone, serving as Rubedo's core, it essentially makes her an "invincible golem." As to how, that we don't know. However, that's not the important part for this instance. The important thing here is that having a World Class item is seemingly required to be able to harm Rubedo(meaning both sides not being affected by the other side's WCI). This implies that normal damage spell and powerful enough attacks will work if you yourself have a WCI to possibly bypass a invulnerability-like effect by the Caloric Stone(maybe).

(from here on is mostly just speculation basic on how I feel things would logically work)

However, even then it doesn't mean that a special ability(spell or skill) would work if targeted directed against an effect of the Caloric Stone even if the caster himself has a WCI. For example, when Ainz guild was locked out of a Realm due to a WCI and that the guildmembers with WCIs on them weren't affected by the lock. From what was explained, it doesn't seem like it would have been possible for those who weren't affected by the lock to undo the lock with say Wish Upon A Star. This implies that while having a WCI makes you yourself unafected by the effects of other WCIs, it however doesn't make you able to go directly against the effects of other WCIs using non-WCI means.

As such, if this is indeed how it works, then the effect of Caloric Stone could only be " invulnerability" if it worked in a way that makes enemies unable to harm her instead of boosting her. (since that would mean that the enemies with WCIs then wouldn't be affected). This however doesn't sound correct to me, so I personally feel that the effect of the Caloric Stone might be something else(aka another form of boosting).

Now, back to why I don't think TGoALID would work. The Caloric Stone seems to be used a the golem core of Rubedo, thus possibly making it so that targetting Rubedo is the same as targetting a WCI (maybe). The main point that makes me believe that the skill wouldn't work is that the core of a golem is its source of life. An instant death spell should normally target the life of the enemy. As such, wouldn't that make it so that the instant death spell targets the Caloric Stone when used on Rubedo? If so, considering that another effect of the Caloric Stone as a core would most certainly be making Rubedo alive, the instant death spell(even if it removes immunity) would thus be going directly against the effect of a WCI and thus shouldn't work for the same reason that Wish Upon a Star wouldn't work on the Ouroboros WCI that locked the guild outside of a Realm.