Talk:Ainz Ooal Gown/@comment-34345720-20180831070339/@comment-30465953-20180901020559

Nah, wherever this guy is it will delve into muh phillosopical about how evil is subjective, that Ainz didn't have any other option or that Ains actions were necessary for utopia or any other edgy stuff like that.

Bro, listen to what the other guy is saying carefully. The place and time Overlord takes place is not one where order exists yet. It is similar to the medieval ages. There isn't any philosophy in saying that there is no good or evil in Overlord. People are simply being practical and realistic. NO ONE is defending Ainz (at least all the reasonable people). Everybody knows that Ainz is a murderer and a tyrant. But that is basically the whole point of his character to begin with. The MC chose to play as an Overlord character and now he is in a world where he has to act on it.

You need to stop thinking that this new world is somehow like our modern day world. In Overlord, where order has yet to be decently established, the survival of the fittest is the only rule that works. It is literally what everyone in that world follows (or admits to be true). Looking at it that way, the only villains are those that bring meaningless harm upon others just for the sake of themselves alone OR crazy fanatics who simply follow ideals like a fool, being a danger to everybody. Ainz is cold and calculating, but he does it to preserve his own friends and allies. He protects only the lands and places which have become apart of his family. YES, he will make murderous decisions to suit his own goal, but that is something in which he has now become as his character's species is meant to be. He has shown compassion and care, and despite the fact that he has committed horrible deeds, they are done to help cherish what he loves. The idea that he should care about the goals and passions of other people are not his problem. Because in that world, one can only look out for themselves. They CAN establish negotiations or even make relationships, but it must still provide some sort of benefit to themselves. It is completely rational, albeit cold hearted.

Again, just because we are not condemning his actions doesn't mean we think they are "good". It is not how it is in this new world. People see what they get. That is all. There is no good or evil because that idealogy has yet to be even recognized/accepted by anyone living there. People ultimately realize that they need to be pragmatic in such a place.