Talk:Eight Greed Kings/@comment-45.56.46.26-20180528004622/@comment-34985584-20180608101932

It doesn't really suggest what you say. In fact, it only really says that Fluder couldn't get a magic item from the 8GK, while the heroes could. It doesn't mean he wasn't allowed into the city.

It does say that there are thirty guards equipped with overpowered magic weapons (and probably equipment as well). But the treasures of the 8GK by then were already guarded (practically owned) by the PDL by then. So it really was the PDL that let the 13 Heroes get from the treasures. And it's possible that in the past, Fluder could not rival them. Only when comparing their known heights in strength (Fluder's present (or maybe the past few decades or so) vs. the heroes of yore), maybe then he could be equal. Perhaps he went to Eryuentiu when the threat of the Evil Deities was over. With that, there was really no more reason to give away treasures that could "save the world". So he's bitter about not acquiring any magic item from the 8GK.

And besides, even if your first theory holds true, there are a lot of holes to be poked from the second. For starters, in the Thirteen Heroes, there is a Vampire Princess, a Necromancer and what is supposedly a half-demon, which Ainz believes to be a Cursed Knight, while others believe to be a fallen paladin. Those do not sound like positive karma people to me, let alone high karmas.