Talk:Demiurge/@comment-181.170.200.129-20151006182203/@comment-110.55.2.179-20151007152354

They did "talk" with each other. They had a mutual agreement. Otherwise why would Demiurge bother to order Shalltear and the rest not to kill Climb when they could easily swat them like flies? Totally unnecessary and another load of work when Nazarick already lack the manpower to operate covertly.

Imagine Demiurge suddenly appearing in front of Renner. Now imagine the conversation between them. It is not Demiurge's style to brainwash someone right away especially if it's someone important so either Demiurge or Renner threw the first words. Renner probably understood what Demiurge is and went along Demiurge's proposal to gather information about Eight Fingers. They're both smart and evil so they do get along. It is also said that Renner's IQ rivals that of Demiurge.

When asked by Evileye what would she do if Climb died and Lakyus died too, she said she had a "backup" plan. It's not a word thrown by someone who had been brainwashed.