Talk:Sebas Tian/@comment-26918598-20150827115002/@comment-26314029-20150913015958

to clarify some things being discussed:

1. it is unconfirmed whether or not sebas has any weapons or armor since he usually stays in his butler attire, however as was shown with shalltear who also defaults to her dress, its possible for him to have other gear ready for emergency situations.

also shalltear does have a transformation, so does demiurge and albedo is implied to as well.

2. sebas is supposedly the second strongest mele fighter when he is transformed

3. in the world of overlord it appears that those of the monk class do not use fist weapons (not that they cant), rather they use techniques to enhance their bodies to make up for the lack of weapons. it would be like his stats are normal for his level and for someone who is unarmed/unequipped, however when he enters a stance or activates a specific ability it would be the same as equipping a weapon or armor.

also yuri uses gauntlets, but she is not a monk class so comparing them is useless. (although it may be important to note that they share the striker class)

4. to clarify on the topic of whether or not gauntlet-type weapons count as unarmed or not, that all depends on the game. some count them as unarmed while some have a specific "fist weapon" category that they normally fall under.

TL;DR - he is NOT the strongest, he MAY OR MAY NOT have armor/weapons, and bringing other MMO logic into here is stupid. you can use them for reference but dont think that just because you saw something in another MMO that its universal