Talk:Zesshi Zetsumei/@comment-174.101.130.110-20170217050821/@comment-173.21.23.66-20170606020015

Shalltear used Solution as a reference because she was the one that had recently accompanied her. Anyways, the Captain being only a level or two above Solution is pretty unlikely, as even though Shalltear has no ability-guaging skills, she could tell that he was "far stronger than Solution of the Pleiades" just by looking at him. That implies a significant gap in strength.

As for Evileye, I didn't say she was far higher leveled than Entoma--just that she was confirmed to level higher than her, which means she's at least 51. I.E not in the 40's. And to be fair, with the aid of two relatively weak companions, she did pretty much decimate Entoma, although that's because she had anti-insect magic. In any case, Evileye is really a horrible example for wasted levels--she's decked with a ton of unique skills and abilities that make her one of the most versatile magic casters we've seen so far.

The fact that he's tri-arts might make it so that he lacks specialized magic for combat, but Fluder would still have to have less than 42 mage job levels for the 7th tier to elude him. Also, there are several statements from Fluder, Jircniv, and Fluder's disciples in volumes 7 and 9 that imply if not outright confirm that Fluder is weaker than a Death Knight. Even with fluff levels, a level 50 being weaker than a level 35 should be pretty much impossible...

Not sure what you mean in regards to Captain/Zesshi vs Army. It's confirmed in the same conversation that the other Black Scripture members could only take on about a dozen Death Knights, but with the Godkin it's possible for them to take on a thousand. How do you get "the Godkin need to rely on the BS" from that?

As for us not being able to know Zesshi's level, that's exactly my point. Be it 70 or 95, handing her anything at this point would be unsubstantiated. All we know is that she can defeat an unarmed level 100 monster if she uses divine class items, (which IMO should require more than 70 levels, but I digress) but that's a pretty arbitrary thing to work with.

I'm not sure what you mean in regards to Lakyus needing to carry her teamates, although it's obvious that Evileye does. Hell, the reason Demiurge killed Gargaran and Tia in Volume 6 was because he misjudged their strength as being around Evileye's--he hadn't meant to do it. In any case, Lakyus isn't a complete warrior like Gazef is; she's a healer, which means her combat ability will naturally be lower than his even if she has a slight level advantage.