Talk:Rubedo/@comment-31227007-20170405193446/@comment-82.192.41.131-20170502184417

also that invasion had to go thorough 7 floors before getting there and probably quite a few invaders died and their resources dwindled and lets not forget we are talking about one of the largest guilds here with most of its members being paid players who used money to upgrade traps  defenses etc and then there is the fact its harder to invade a fortress than to defend it (aspecialy an rpg dungeon type with traps and climateand terrain designed to hel guardians)

so yeah facing an army of severely exhausted and debuffed enemies on your own turf i can see how rubedo could win but whether she alone could face a powerful guild such as the tomb of nazarick who has superior equipment, resources, troops and intelligence is an entirely diffrent question