Talk:Gazef Stronoff/@comment-124.122.126.150-20180824091058/@comment-34598988-20180825225954

im not gonna sit here and let you disrespect my gazef

1) i noticed that there alot of hypocrisy in the comunity, for example if we were to switch gazef with cocytus and the king with ainz, if cocytus were to not betray ainz resulting in alot of nazarick denizens dieing it would be what evs because loyalty to ainz is the most important thing to cocytus and people understand that but when gazef does it for the same reasons its seen as foolish because because loyalty isnt worth the lives of 100,000 people

2) he didnt die in vain ainz called off the goats that were massacreing people because of gazef's sacrifice granted he would have also called them off if gazef bent the knee but like i said above LOYALTY, anyway since gazzef's death saved the lives of the remaining people in the army it cant be called dieing in vain that doesnt even make sense

3) its implied that one of the reasons gazef dueled ainz was so brain and climb could bring info back to the king about some of ainz's abilities granted that didnt work cus they didnt even see how gazef died but the point is honor and pride are not the reasons gazef dueled ainz

4) he's right, if the warrior captain is face to face with the enemy king then the warrior captain should fight him its only common sense and no, gazef didnt think he could beat the magic caster that killed 100k people he even said himself there is no way he could win, he faught for the reason mentioned above

5) gazef didnt want to be ressurected because he bilieves man is given one life and it should stay that way not because he didnt want to serve the king anymore. actually the biggest reason he stayed dead was as a final way of serving the king, he knew the king would get alot of backlash for this so he stayed dead so that the king could be in grief and gain sympathy points from the nobles that way he wouldnt suffer that big a blow from them

6) it wasnt meaningful suicide it was meaningful sacrifice for the rerasons satated above

7) gazef will be remembered as the badass who challenged ainz to a duel dispite knowing he would loose all to give his country some extra info on the oponent and refused ressurection as a final act of loyalty to the king put some respect on his name