Talk:Climb/@comment-179.127.113.200-20180717195355/@comment-45.56.46.26-20180718180015

Renner doesn't want Climb being especially stronger than necessary to make him feel qualified to stay by her side. She definitely doesn't want him to be so strong he feels guilty or conflicted about not taking on any larger role.

She wasn't kidding about letting him die as long as he could be resurrected to be nursed back to health by her...but her objective in that case would be to dissuade him from doing anything that would involve leaving her side.

Climb has zero value as advertising compared to A) The 8th Martial Lord (and others who are already famous for their strength) or B) random walk-on newbs trained up from level 1. Climb simply isn't going to get enough stronger to be more impressive than Go-Gin or Leinas Rockbruise, and the majority of his strength will never have come from training up through the SK adventurer program, it will always be from his self-tutalage and time as a guard for the Re-Estize Kingdom.

Neia, by starting out much lower level than Climb was at the start of the narrative, and becoming a significant national hero under the personal guidance and support of the Sorcerer King, is already a far better advertisement of what the SK can accomplish than Climb will ever be. Apparently a fair number of her thousands of followers are ALSO each individually better advertisements for the effectiveness of the SK program than Climb will ever be.

If the SK incorporated Adventurer™ Guild has been operating throughout the events of the Paladin of the HK arc, they've probably got at least two Adamantite groups stronger than Blue Rose (Darkness and the Martial Lord's group). They've also probably got a dozen gold-ranked teams, which would have been raised up from much lower levels under the SK program, with fighters comparable to Climb and other members to match. They've got the support of existing Mythril rank adventurers and probably have raised some up to Orichalcum rank.

Yeah, you would like to see Climb become the typical shonen protagonist of the series. But the actual protagonist (Ainz, in case you were wondering) doesn't have any real motive to make Climb (rather than basically any random street urchin swept into the SK orphanage system) such a hero, nor does Renner, who does still have pretty final authority on what Climb does or doesn't do.