Talk:Six Great Gods/@comment-82.219.6.198-20171201123658/@comment-45.56.46.26-20180606194741

The 8GK were responsible for vastly spreading Tier Magic, but it was introduced by the 6GG a century earlier.

I think that the theory of the 6GG having had Ouroboros or a similar world item is interesting but ultimately unpersuasive. First, Ainz immediately believes that the translation effect could be achieved by a much lower-level magical effect, such as feeding everyone Translation food at some point in the past. The topic isn't revisited, but the point is that clearly the 6GG wouldn't have needed a World Item, let alone one of the Twenty, to produce that effect.

The other point is that the Twenty should respawn after being used. Ouroboros should thus have been used multiple times in the centuries since, with more drastic effects.

On the other hand, Wild Magic can trump World Items, and the Theocracy has said specifically in the case of PDL that DCC wouldn't work on him, therefore it is unlikely that it would work on many of the even more powerful Dragon Lords existing before the 8GK's rampage. So I would discount that possibility.

Wild Magic seems to be the most fundamental kind of magic from which all the others are derived. No magic should be able to trump Wild Magic, even though it is asserted by PDL that the existence of Teir Magic has made Wild Magic much harder to use. The question is, since Wild Magic requires a sacrifice of souls, where did that sacrifice first come from to bring Yggdrasil players and their powers into the New World?