Talk:Climb/@comment-179.127.113.200-20180717195355/@comment-179.127.113.200-20180720183541

Not make him a shonnen character. Make him stronger and loyal to Ainz, but with a good heat like Sebas.

If Renner ever show him har true crazy and sick nature. Lock him and torture while moved by her "love" for him. Than if she change her species make him so desperate that he would kill her himself.

Driving him close to madnes, only to be saved by Ainz...

I think this would be a good way of using Renner and Climb. Only to dispose of her and taking him into the sorcerous kingdom banner. One reason for that is that Renner is too smart but don't have the same loyalty that of Albedo or Demiurge. Therefore making her a dungerous foe if ever be permited to became more powerfull if she morphed into other being.