Talk:Demiurge/@comment-2001:56A:7407:CC00:6439:D104:4FED:2A3B-20181028224146/@comment-36873764-20181029111436

You seem to fail to understand the difference between "good" and "evil".

If a level 100 Seraph (or my D&D 3.5 Archon Rogue/Wizard) used Demiurge as a club to beat Ainz to death, killing him in the process, that would be just because both Ainz and Demiurge have enough blood on their hands to justify their deaths.

Using an innocent woman, however foolish, as a similar club would be unjust  because she has done nothing to deserve such treatment.

It's like, on the one hand, locking up a thief, and on the other locking up someone who has committed no crime.

A good person, Seraph or not, would not use children as food. Period.

A good person, Seraph or not, would not club an innocent (if foolish) woman to death. Period.

A good person, Seraph or not, might kill someone who does such a thing because that is just.

The rest of your post is just pointless whataboutism. Sebas would obviously not kill the woman if she was not a threat to him, or Nazarick, and he had not received any orders from Ainz concerning her. What happened to her if they parted would no longer be his concern.

Albedo and Demiurge love their family? So do the Mafia, what of it? Moreover Albedo does not love her creators. She'd kill all of them, apart from Ainz, for abandoning Nazarick.

I notice how Ainz offered a "join me or die" to the lizardmen... oh wait no, he started off with the goal of exterminating them, and was only talked out of it by Cocytus. He also didn't offer such a choice to the hundred thousand taken prisoner by Demiurge, just "kill the innocent quickly". Arche anyone? You ascribe to Ainz virtue that he doesn't possess.

Moreover I have to assume that when he was Suzuki Satoru Ainz would not have considered the deaths of 180,000 persons something to brush off with a "Hey, I made five goats. Aren't I cool?" He has been changed into a being who, at the very least, is indifferent to anyone beyond their usefulness to him (outside of Nazarick). Perhaps not "hating all living" but certainly indifferent to the suffering of others.

You keep bringing up the Six Great Gods and the Eight Greed Kings, but we have no idea what the alignment of any of those fourteen was. The fact that the Eight started by attacking the last member of the Six, and then slew each other, suggests that Good was not their majority alignment. Favouring humanity does not make a person good, we have plenty of evidence of that in Overlord.

So yes, I want some good aligned group with enough power to make Ainz's boney knees knock, or at least make his conquest look like something less of a cakewalk. Sadly that isn't likely to happen in this series.

I don't think this discussion is going anywhere, so ciao.