Talk:Renner Theiere Chardelon Ryle Vaiself/@comment-78.226.26.9-20151025125744/@comment-210.187.237.227-20151110052235

jircniv wears a medallion which is resistant to mc, hence why demiurge could not make him kneel....

also too many people now know fluder is a traitor.... so using fluder at this point to control jircniv is impossible. in fact i think fluder is in a dangerous situation where he could be captured or killed.... the question is will ainz rescue him or order him to retreat back to nazarick before that happened?