Talk:Renner Theiere Chardelon Ryle Vaiself/@comment-210.187.237.227-20151105145620/@comment-210.187.237.227-20151110051816

You convinced me on the bargain to be kept dialogue demiurge mentions. cauz that would heavily imply he did make a deal with renner (cause thats the only individual where it makes sense from all the hints), not to mention in the same sentence her name was brought up..... not to mention the other hints which although could be hinted was due to Ainz' knowledge of climb being a contact of Sebas, the other facts just back up the fact that it wasn't simply that which Climb was taken special note of later on by Demiurge.

So that settles it.

Does this mean then the plan Renner did with Marquis was made after or before she made the deal with Demiurge? Also if after, does that mean she plans to betray zanak/marquis in favor of AOG (meaning she had a change of plan from her original)? or is renner/Zanack/Marquis all together in cahoots with AOG knowingly?

And how exactly did Demiurge so quickly gain Renner's cooperation to work together?

So far i can only hypotesize that AOG may help put renner' policies into practice for harvesting crop. Using Fluder' own experiment with undead to harvest crop in the empire, it's making sense aog would supply golems or undead for her plan :x ?